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Spain - Vuelta a España - 2017-08-23
« on: August 22, 2017, 09:50:04 PM »
Spain - Vuelta a España date: 23/08/2017  hour: 13:00
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Tip Stage 5: Johan Esteban Chaves better than Chris Froome
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We arrived at the 5th stage and this does not stop with 175km of "montañita" if the expression is allowed. This can be one of those stages in which it is allowed to arrive at the escape, yes, with permission of Sky. It is a partial type rompepiernas with five ports, three of 2nd category and two of 3rd. The high arrival and the bonuses can cause that there are teams interested in not allowing to reach the possible escapes but for this it takes interest. That is why it is better to go for a comparative than for a podium or stage winner.
 
 The last climb is only 3.5km with an average slope of 4.2%, it does not look like much but with speed and with the fatigue of the stage can hurt some. It is evident that the hardness is not great so runners like Alaphilippe or Woods can do it well but if the thing is among the favorites to the general seems a more own arrival of Chaves, Aru or Bardet. Even so it is complex to know what will happen because there are surprises in the Vuelta every day and if not they tell Majka.
 
 This stage is more typical of a comparative and my first intention was the one of Zakarin better than Kelderman but it collapsed when it was written so I go with the one of Chaves better than Froome.
 
 -Chaves has had a sensational Vuelta start, which leads me to think that it will not end well. But the arrival of tomorrow suits his style, he likes the ports with a steep slope where he can take advantage of its explosiveness. The Colombian has a good team and seeing that tomorrow is not for the Yates, the Aussie set could try with him.
 
 -Froome is Froome What about him? Well that tomorrow should not be for him and I would even dare say he is interested in losing the lead. I say it more than anything because leading at first wears a lot and although it looked good, the truth is that it will be much better later. Because of its running style and with such a short port, it is likely to yield positions. Of course, Sky will rise to the top to avoid attacks.
 
 This quota is fluctuating a lot and I want to take advantage of it. Chaves has a good chance and looks like a port chosen for him. The slope is larger than the Vuelta mark and in some areas there is% vertigo in very little space, only 3km. It will unleash the storm and with a more diesel Froome, it will cost a little. That's why I see Chavito ahead .... but only today eh ... .good luck !!!
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Spain - Vuelta a España - 2017-08-23
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2017, 11:48:05 PM »
Spain - Vuelta a España date: 23/08/2017  hour: 20:30
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Tip Winner Team ranking: Orica Scott
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With 4 of the 21 stages already disputed of the return Spain we found with the expected. And regarding the team classification, the Orica Scott and the Sky will be fighting to the end.
 Having seen the team that brought the Orica, everyone gave them one of the favorites to win the best young man (although in the return this prize does not exist) makes the team have looked at the red jersey and the team classification. And seeing that Chaves and the Yates brothers are at a high level, there is nothing left but to go with them. Without ruling out the escape of someone else from the team.
 We all know how to run the Sky. They have come with the sole objective of the red jersey for Froome, and that will be his plan until the end as they will run alone for him, without any further attack. They run in block and in case of pajara of Froome those that remain will wait for him and always in the stages they put the rhythm, thing that eliminates them to them little by little. They have Moscon and Snow to a great standard, but not enough to get with the favorites, although they do create harshness on the climb. And a Poels that right now neither is nor is expected.
 
 The classification is the sum of the three best times of each team. And in stages of medium and high mountain, with the 3 runners mentioned, the Orica must take time to the others. In order to arrive at the time trial, which is where they lose.
 
 Right now the ranking is as follows:
 1ORICA-Scott 40:22:11
 2Team Sky +1: 05
 3Astana Pro Team +1: 56
 4Movistar Team +2: 52
 5Team Sunweb +2: 55
 6UAE Team Emirates +3: 18
 So I think it's worth going with the Orica of the great Neil Stephens. Luck and thanks to whoever follows me.
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Spain - Vuelta a España - 2017-08-23
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2017, 11:52:04 PM »
Spain - Vuelta a España date: 23/08/2017  hour: 13:00
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Tip Romain Bardet - Fabio Aru (Romain Bardet)
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This time I go with the French.
 
 Tomorrow the stage has 3 km final hard enough, which only a few I think they will withstand the one who won among the leaders of ranks, Chaves beetle I think this will leave froome, that is to say it will take at least a few seconds to me Way of seeing, apart from all this also mention that I think there will be a good and numerous escape that will get to play the stage victory, cyclists such as: Thomas De Gent, Fraile, Navarro, Luisle, Diego Rosa, ... that type Of runners, they could mess it up if they agreed.
 
 For the side that we treated in the pick, for my Romain this I believe that the Italian Fabio Aru, as much in the tour of France, as seen in the 1st stage of mountain in which they linked because it was the descent if the Port becomes harder and longer they would have stayed, surely I think.
 
 Also the ag2r has a better team than the Astana, who at the time of helping his boss would lose the Italian again.
 
 The SKY can also take the controls and burst the rise based on gregarious and its changes of pace, and Orica ...? answer to? For me it has the best block.
 
 On the other hand the end of tomorrow I see more complete to the French in the face of that hard climb and that grabs a lot.
 
 If the race on the other hand happens that the favorites are not able to break the race between them (Chaves, Froome, Bardet, Nibali) as people like Aru and company could try it and the aforementioned runners let them go and that pull down the Pick
 
 Well I hope to have read ien the stage of tomorrow and add another GREEN. Greetings and luck.
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